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понедељак, 4. април 2016.

Šime ide za Amerike (MEX): Teotihuacán

Malo ih je teško videti iz daljine - ne zato što nisu visoke, nego što im je sadašnja boja skoro pa identična sa okolnim brdima i planinama.

It's kinda hard noticing the pyramids from a distance - not because they're not tall, their and the color of the nearby hills and mountains are almost the same!

Mimikrija, zar ne? / Mimicry, no?

Nakon što sam studiozno istraživao prevoz autobusom (ne uzalud - mesto treba posetiti nekoliko puta), na kraju sam otišao tamo sa komšijama koje su imale auto. Od Meksiko Sitija do Teotiuakana ima 48km. Izlaskom iz gradske zone (Meksiko Siti je posebna država-grad koja se do pre nekoliko meseci zvala Distrito Federal - DF, a sada Ciudad de México*), ulazite u okolnu Estado de México sa brdašcima punih šareno obojenih kućica**.

*Čisto da bude komplikovanije, meksikanci koji žive van Meksiko Sitija referišu na glavni grad kao na "Meksiko", a oni su iz... Haliska, Gvadalahare...
**Rekoše mi da političke partije plaćaju krečenje kuća, ukoliko je u boji njihove partije. Zamislite samo kako bi to funkcionisalo u Srbiji...
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After researching for some time how to get there by bus (not in vain - one needs to see the place several times), I visited the place with a couple of neighbors with a car. From Mexico City to Teotihuacan there's 48km. Leaving the city zone (Mexico City is a special city-state which was officially called - just until few months ago - Distrito Federal - DF, and now Ciudad de México*), you're entering into the surrounding Estado de México, with many hills densely filled with colorful houses.**

*To make it even more complicated, Mexicans residing outside the city, refer to the capital simply as "Mexico", while they are from... Jalisco, Guadalajara...
**I was told that political parties are paying for the houses to get painted, IF you do it in the color of their party...



Dođite ujutru, dok sunce još nije jako i nema gužve. Posebno praznicima i vikendima. Ceo kompleks - Zona Arqueológica - je otvoren od 9 do 17č. I, ako je u pitanju sunčan dan, namažite se nekom kremom za sunce. Nema veze da li imate ten ili ne, bićete kao jastozi. Drugi put sam izgoreo u Meksiku zahvaljujući piramidama.
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Arrive here during the morning, before the sun is high and crowded. Specially during the holidays and weekends. The entire complex - Zona Arqueológica - is open 9AM-17PM. And, if it's a sunny day, get a suntan creme. You'll be like lobsters, irrelevant of your skin color. This was the second time I got burned by Mexican sun.




Ako ne dođete rano, čeka vas ovo:
If you're not there early enough, be prepared for:

Ovo je red pri našem dolasku, po povratku se nalazio oko ugla, do iduće stranice piramide... This was the queue upon our arrival, while later it was spreading behind the corner, up to the other side of the pyramid...



Peli su sve svi - stari, mladi, debeli, mršavi, bebe, dva psa... stepenice nisu toliko izlizane koliko sam očekivao od jedne popularne arheološke destinacije (razlog - gornji sloj nije originalan), a jedino pomagalo je vam je uže u sredini. Sjajno za držanje kondicije, samo ukoliko ne stajete previše pri penjanju. Dobro, hajdemo na najveću, Piramidu sunca! (puh, pant)
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Everybody were climbing up - old, young, fat, skinny, babies, two dogs... the stairs were not so frayed as I expected from a popular archaeological site (reason - upper layer is not original), while the only support is a plastic cord in the middle. Great for exercising, if you're not frequently stopping while going up. Alright, let's climb the biggest, Sun pyramid!


Pogled ka Piramidi Kecalkoatla / view towards Quetzalcoatl pyramid

Pogled ka Mesečevoj piramidi / View towards Moon pyramid
Pretpostavka je da je vrh bio zaravnjen (kao i danas) gde su se nalazili hramovi. Pre par decenija je otkriveno da ova piramida ima i unutrašnje prostorije, iako nisu do sada istražene.

Još uvek traju diskusije o tome koja je bila civilizacija koja je podigla ove piramide; arheološki ostaci datiraju još iz Neolita, a smatra se da ono što se može videti danas dolazi iz tzv. klasičnog perioda Teotiuakana (200-900 godina nove ere).

Na vrhu možete da čujete neke neobične zvuke - da li je u blizini zoološki vrt, ringišpil ili se pušta neki film? Prodavci u podnožju koji prodaju glinene skulpturice s kojima možete da pravite zvuk kondora i jaguara. Ne budite naivni kao i ja da date 45 pesosa za malog kondora - malo dalje, na štandovima, košta 15...
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It is considered that the top was flattened (like today) with buildings like temples. A few decades ago a tunnel was discovered inside the pyramid, although it is still not researched well.

There are still discussions about which civilization made these monuments; archaeological findings could be found from Neolithic times, but it is considered that what we could see now comes from the so called Classical Period of Teotihuacan (200-900 AD).

On the top you can hear some odd sounds - is there a zoo nearby, a rollercoaster or a movie screening? It's the vendors in the foothill, selling clay sculptures making sounds of condors and jaguars. Just don't buy a small condor for 45 pesos like me - a bit further, there are stands where you could find it just for 15...



Piramida sunca se nalazi na istočnoj strani, a Piramida meseca na severu, prateći - očigledno - kretanje nebeskih tela. Na kraju krajeva, smatra se da je grad predstavljao uređenje sveta (naziv Teotihuacán znači "mesto rođenja bogova").

Natpisi nisu posebno informativni - nema ih puno, niti vam govore nešto zanimljivo, kao da su izvađeni iz nekih dosadnih stručnih knjiga. "Piramida ima četvorougaonu osnovu, visine xx, sa x soba, x delova..." pa vidim to i sam. Jedino je fino što su napisani na španskom, nauatl i engleskom jeziku.

U sredini se nalazi Avenija mrtvih, koja ide pravcem sever-jug, kojom idemo sada do Piramide meseca.
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The Sun pyramid is on the east, while the Moon pyramid is on the north, following - obviously - the movement of heavenly bodies. After all, it is considered that the city represented the gods' world-making (Teotihuacán means "the birthplace of gods").

Information boards are not so interesting - firstly, there not many of them around, and the texts are rather boring. "The pyramid had a square basis, xx meters height, with x rooms and x parts...", well, I can see that with my own eyes. A nice thing, though, is that they are written in Spanish, Nahuatl and English.

In the middle is the Avenue of the dead, with a north-south axis, which we take to get to the next, Pyramid of the moon.

Zidovi čiji su zidovi zaliveni betonom. Inače, nema demarkacije koji sloj je "originalan", a koji je rekonstrukcija / Walls were filled-in with concrete. Btw, there are no marks indicating "original" and reconstructed parts.


 

Piramida meseca je manja od Piramide sunca i ne možete se popeti do samoga vrha. Na putu od jedne do druge piramide, pored zgrada, imate samo par ostataka, poput murala jaguara i dela uništene skulpture jednog božanstva. Grad je poprilično bio (i ostao) ogoljen po putanju dekoracije*. Pali su mi na pamet antički grčki hramovi - bele se danas, a nekada su bili puni boja...

*Osim Piramide Quetzalcoatl na jugu.

Grad nema zidina niti (do sada) otkrivenih vojnih lokacija. Ostavio je veliki uticaj na kasnije gradove i urbane centre u tom regionu, kao i na civilizacije Maja i Asteka, ovi poslednji koji su "preveli" stare bogove u svoj panteon.

Centralni deo grada je iskopan i restaurisan delimično, dok se okolo nalazi šira zona, gde su ljudi zapravo i živeli. Ove "humke" su najverovatnije neiskopane manje "piramide" ili neke druge profane građevine. Tu se dobro i vide kontrasti između restaurisanih i starih zidova.
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The Moon pyramid is smaller than the previous one and you cannot reach the top. On the way here, apart from buildings, you can see just a couple of remains, like a jaguar mural and parts of an destroyed god sculpture. The city was (and still is) pretty bald regarding decoration*. I had been reminded of ancient Greek temples - white today, colorful in the past...

*Except for Quetzalcoatl pyramid on the south.

The city has no walls or (until now) military buildings. It had an enormous impact on latter cities and urban zones in the region, as well as influenced civilizations of Mayas and Aztecs, the latter even appropriated and translated the old gods into their pantheon.

While the central part of the city is excavated and partially restored, the surrounding wider area is not so much in focus, where actually people lived. These "mounds" are probably unexcavated "pyramids" or other type of civil buildings. You could see well the contrasts between conserved and old, rocky walls.



Ostalo je da vidimo deo kompleksa na jugu i muzej... već izgoreli i gladni, ostavili smo to za drugi put.
Now, to check the part on the south and the museum... but we were already fried and hungry, so let's leave smth for next time.

¡Hasta luego!


Skulpture, keramika, murali i ostali vredni predmeti se mahom nalaze u obližnjem muzeju, Antropološkom muzeju u Meksiko Sitiju i privatnim kolekcijama / Sculptures, ceramics, murals and other valuable objects can be found in the nearby museum, th Antropological museum in Mexico City and private collections

Rekonstrisana palata / restored palace Quetzalpapalotl


Više ovde / more info you can find here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teotihuacan
http://wikitravel.org/en/Teotihuacan
http://www.teotihuacan.inah.gob.mx/


уторак, 19. август 2014.

Šime ide za Amerike (USA): SF bay & UMOJA

Da nešto razjasnimo pre opisa putešestvija. Nekoliko ljudi me je pitalo ko su taj Erik i njegov kompanjon Šime...

To clarify something before I started with my main post. Several people have asked me who is that Erik and his companion Šime...

Erik je nastao kao nadimak zbog junaka serije Vesele sedamdesete koja je bila emitovana sredinom 2000-tih na TV B92, s kojim sam imao sličnosti u izgledu i oblačenju ("retro"). Od zezanja je došlo do toga da mi u parku ljudi prilaze i kažu "Izvini, ali ti jako ličiš na Erika Formena..." Ime bloga je bilo inspirisano imenom mančesterskog muzičara i DJ-a A guy called Gerald, koji se nalazi na soundtrack-u 24 hour party people. Dani kada smo Tazza, Xenia i ja vijali muziku kao DJ tim Kerozeena & The Star-Children... Kad smo kod toga, evo i ranijeg posta o timu na engleskom, pisan inicijalno za Last.fm, iako fotografija više nema - neke su dostupne na Myspace profilu koji godinama nismo koristili.

Erik is a nickname of a character of Those '70s Show which was broadcasted in mid 2000's on B92 TV, whose looks mysteriously appeared similar to mine's ("retro"). From jokes it have become serious when people started approaching me in a park saying "Excuse me, but you remind me of Eric Foreman...". In addition, blog's name was inspired by the name of Mancunian musician and DJ A guy called Gerald, which is featured on 24 hour party people soundtrack. Those were the days when Tazza, Xenia and me played music DJ team Kerozeena & The Star-Children... Speaking about it, here's an earlier post about us then, which I wrote as Last.fm note, although there are no more photos visible, some of them are visible via Myspace profile which we haven't been using for years.

A Šime? Šime je interni nadimak između moje tetke iz Zagreba i mene, podstaknut reklamom za Eva sardine.

Vratimo se Berkliju...

And Šime? It's an internal nickname between me and my aunt from Zagreb, inspired by a saying and an ad for Eva sardines.

Let's get back to Berkeley...

Mural na Telegraph aveniji, koja pokriva oko 7km između Berklija i Ouklanda (šetnja od skoro dva sata) / A mural on Telegraph avenue, a street which covers about 7km between Berkeley and Oakland
Muzička prodavnica Amoeba na Telegraph aveniji: puno reminiscencija na hipi eru (muzičke prodavnice, polovna odeća, ručno rađeni nakit, štandovi na ulici, uz povremen miris marihuane) / Amoeba music shop on Telegraph ave: load of reminiscences of hippie era (music shops, second hand clothing, hand made jewelery, street stands, with casual smell of marijuana)
Pacific center, jedna od najstarijih institucija u zemlji namenjena zdravstvenom i mentalnom radu sa LGBTQ zajednicom / Pacific center, one of oldest organizations in the country dedicated to health and mental work with LGBTQ community
Berkeley, Univerzitet u Kaliforniji / University of CA, Berkeley

Kad smo već kod biljaka, par fotki iz SF botaničke bašte. Ova "bašta" pokriva mali deo ogromnog Golden gate parka. I pored povremenog utiska da sam se nalazio u ogromnoj šumi, postoji nekoliko delova bašte - sa "postavkama" biljnih populacija iz tropskih šuma južnoameričkih Anda, Mezoamerike i jugoistočne Azije, zatim kalifornijske, čileanske, australijske i mediteranske faune... Jedan deo se zove Garden of fragrance koji je teško ne omirisati!

Staring with plants, here's a couple of photos from SF botanical garden. This "garden" covers a part of huge Golden gate park. Apart from feeling that I'm in a vast forest, there are several parts with "exhibitions" of plants from tropical forests of Southern Andes, Mesoamerica, Chilean, Californian, Australian and Mediterranean fauna... A part called Garden of fragrance was a delight to my nose!






Pozorišta i bioskopi... sve sa lampicama i natpisima.

And now - theaters... with flashy small lamps and joyful letters.



Da, Monti Pajtoni imaju "oproštajnu" turneju, povampireni pod nazivom Monty Python live (mostly) / Yes, Monty Python's Flying Circus had its "farewell" tour

Jedna poseta SF otkrila mi je, pored mnoštva azijsko-afričko-mediteranskih prodavnica i restorana i ruski "kutak" u okviru Geary ulice. Pekara nazvana Moscow & Tbilisi Russian bakery otvorila mi je apetit sa "piroški", goveđim burekom, i pecivom sa makom (kolač, trougao, štrudla, rolnica).

One visit to SF led me to, apart to Asian-African-Mediterranean shops and restaurants, to a Russian area in Geary street. A bakery called simply Moscow & Tbilisi Russian bakery had opened my appetite with pirogues, beef burek and pastries with poppy seeds (cookie, triangle, strudel and roll).


Turistička radoznalost u okruženju koje nudi mnogo na sve strane postaje stepenica za dalje "kopanje" po kulturi i istoriji ovog grada.

Touristic curiosity in an environment which offers much behind every corner (so to speak) makes it an extra challenge to dig up more about the culture and the history of this city.

Čitajući o SF, trenutno iz pera novinara Davida Talbota (knjiga Season of the Witch: Enchantment, Terror, and Deliverance in the City of Love), sve više razumem raznolikost ("rasa", kultura, jezika, hrane, religija, seksualnih opredeljenja i dr) ovog grada. Grad koji obećava novu priliku je dugo vremena bio nada ljudima koji su dolazili iz cele Amerike i sveta - bilo da se radilo o kopačima zlata, irskim i italijanskim radničkim porodicama, hipicima, gejevima i lezbejkama. SF je nosio (i još uvek nosi) auru otvorenosti i prihvatanja.

Reading about San Francisco, at the moment from a book Season of the Witch: Enchantment, Terror, and Deliverance in the City of Love by journalist David Talbot, I'm gradually understanding the diversity of this city (whether it comes to "races", cultures, languages, food, religions, sexuality, etc). The city which offers a new chance was for a long time a sign of hope to people coming from all over USA - and the rest of the world - whether they were gold diggers, Irish and Italian blue-collar families, hippies, gays and lesbians. SF had (and still has) an aura of openness and acceptance.

Međutim, do te slobode i prihvaćenosti je došlo preko mnogobrojnih konflikata među njegovim stanovnicima, političarima i aktivistima, levih i desnih, konzervativaca i liberala... Čitajući Talbotovu knjigu, čini mi se da je otpor establišmentu (po pitanju ljudskih prava svih zajednica i manjina od kojih su ovaj region i grad sastavljeni) izgradio solidnu bazu društvenog aktivizma, komšijskih organizacija i brige za svoje građane/ke, koji je vidljiv u svakodnevnom životu. I to je proces koji je stalno u toku, nikad završen. Oslanjanje na sistem dolazi preko nezadovoljstva sistemom i izgradnje boljeg sistema - ovde se čini zgodna Gandijeva rečenica "Budi promena koju želiš da vidiš".

Although, to reach that freedom and acceptance one needed to bridge multiple conflicts between its inhabitants, politicians and activists, leftists and far rights, conservatives and liberals... Reading Talbot's book, it seems to me that the resistance to the establishment (regarding human rights of all communities and minorities which make this city) have developed a solid base of social activism, neighborhood support and care system, visible in daily life. And that's a process which is always ongoing, never finished. Relying on the system is one of the stadiums between being dissatisfied with it, and wishing to build a better one - it's seems very convenient to quote Gandhi here with "Be the change you want to see".

Paparaco dok završavam knjigu Season of the witch... Paparazzi while reading!

Na kraju krajeva, pomalo idealistično, mislim da bilo koji sistem koji ne uzima u obzir sve protagoniste na društveno-političkoj sceni osuđuje sebe na propast jer misli da drugima može da nalaže šta da rade, ne bi li postali kao oni - kao slika u ogledalu vrednosti, uverenja, stavova... umesto dolaženja do zajedničkog tla. Ovaj mehurić nama sličnih svi pravimo, u manjoj ili većoj meri, ali on postaje opasan ako se preslika na celu zajednicu.

After all, in a slightly idealistic manner, I think  that every system that doesn't take into account all protagonists in the political-social scene is condemning itself to failure, thinking it can boss everyone, wishing that the rest should become like it is - as a mirror picture, of its values, attitudes... instead of reaching a common ground. This bubble of surrounding oneself with familiar and making the world like it we all do - this way or another - but it becomes hazard if it becomes a solo image of any community.

Nazad ka fotografijama - kad smo kod raznolikosti, ko odluči da pešači po SF, neka se pripremi na brda.

Back to photos - speaking about diversity, who wants to walk SF, needs to be prepared to many hills.



Pogled na Pacifički okean - Ocean view...


Ko god misli da uz more, surfere i Kaliforniju ide 30+ stepeni (celzijusa), vara se... Sea, surf, sun & CA in August with 30 degrees Celsius? NO!

Za kraj ovog bloga - u Ouklandu je u subotu bio održan drugi afrički festival pod nazivom UMOJA u Lowell parku, na 20min. od centra. Ceo park je bio posvećem ovoj manifestaciji - dva improvizovana terena su bila namenjena fudbalskom takmičenju različitih timova (Nigerijski, Etiopski... u zavisnosti od brojnosti učesnika), štandovi sa hranom, odećom, suvenirima, kao i binom sa muzičkim programom koja je bila centar dešavanja.

To conclude this blog - in Saturday Oakland had 2nd African festival called UMOJA in Lowell park,some 20min. by walking from center. The whole park was dedicated to this manifestation - two improvised football ground had a competition in (European) football (Nigerian, Ethiopian team... depending from the number of participants), food stands & trucks, clothing, souvenirs, as well as a stage with music program as a highlight.

Većina ljudi je dolazila iz Ouklanda i okoline - primetno su se ljudi družili (kao da se svi znaju), park je imao šmek piknika (ćebići, kučići, deca), a ja sam ulazio u 10% posetioca koji nisu bili afro-amerikaci. Nastupali su bendovi iz Južnoafričke republike, Zimbabvea, Nigerije... mene je najviše zanimao afrobit bend Lagos Roots.

Most people came from Oakland area - it was noticeable how people were hanging out (like everybody knows everybody), the park had a feeling of a big picnic (blankets, dogs, kids), while I was one of 10% of the visitors who weren't Afro-Americans. Many bands performed - from South African republic, Zimbabwe, Nigeria... for me, the most interesting ones were Lagos Roots.

Tell it!
Fudbal

Obratite pažnju na starog hipika s leve strane! / Check the old hippie dancing on the left


Piwai iz Zimbabvea
Lagos roots afrobeat ensemble
Nazad ka BART stanici... Back to BART station


U skladu sa Talbotovom knjigom, još jedan kalifornijski bend - Dead Kennedys - u obradi i interpretaciji pesme I fought the law - kritikuju sistem povodom političkog ubistva Džordža Moskonea i Harvija Milka.

In line with the book, another Californian band - Dead Kennedys - with cover and interpretation of a song I fought the law - criticizing the system after the political assassination of George Moscone and Harvey Milk.